Yogscast vs Notch full info - He said she said- Nerd Age

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Yogscast vs Notch full info

Yogscast is currently feuding with Notch himself. Note: there is some harsh language in the context of the story.

Yogscast vs Notch feud

As you can see, Notch is claiming quite a few bad things about the Yogscast crew. If these are true then there is no reason to go on supporting them.

However none of this can be confirmed so far. Several people have mentioned that Notch himself made some tasteless jokes. He is rather well known for making bad jokes.

We’re waiting on their official statement, but quite a few people who went to Minecon can confirm that Yogscast did indeed curse up a storm. They certainly did during their panel.

Here is the bottom line:

Yogscast will be making a statement when they are done with the trip. Notch will probably continue what he always does and use Twitter non-stop. However as of right now the entire feud is just a bunch of he said/she said.

The only things we have confirmed for sure are facts that we already know:

  1. Notch loves to make terrible jokes.

  2. Yogscast loves to curse whenever possible.

However we will be staying with this story. Hopefully some third party can come forward and confirm the things said about Yogscast. As far as Nerd Age goes we will give you an unbiased report until we can confirm some of the hard facts later on.

So far the only third parties speaking out about this are “Youtube Personalities” such as Minecraft Chick. They’re overall pointing out that Notch is hypocritical for getting onto someone for cursing. After all, these people are “Youtube Personalities” and you have to defend your own.

There is a report from someone claiming to be a staffer, but once again this was a Reddit post and cannot be confirmed. The post claimed that the Yogscasters were indeed jerks.

There is also a conflicting report that was put up after we first wrote this, saying they were not jerks.

Another update, here is finally something cement about how Yogscast acted at least some of the time:

Double update- The Yogscast statement:

And a written statement here: Reddit. They of course completely deny the most serious accusation of the kid who was told to “fuck off”. They  They also said that many of the accusations were at least inaccurate. So there you have it.

Notch has Tweeted once again here. Of course what he seems to be apologizing for is that he said it over Twitter. Everything he said was true according to Notch. So at the end of all this we still can’t confirm if the infamous “fuck you” incident occurred. I suppose side with whoever you like more.

Mojang has released their official statement. It says that they found it hard to work with Yogscast, but they will be no longer talk about it publicly only to Yogscast themselves.

After the official Mojang statement, Notch apologized to Yogscast for being a dick.

Meanwhile the fans on each side are taking their own stances. Notch is receiving hatemail from the wonderful Yogscast fanbase. We’re sure Yogscast will have some hatemail of their own when this is over.  Their viewer count is also fluctuating, but it’s unlikely they will even notice much of a hit.

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33 Comments

  • Phillip
    Nov 22, 2011 @ 9:39 am

    In all fairness, this article should have mentioned the second staff member’s report.

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    • admin
      Nov 22, 2011 @ 13:04 pm

      Right you are. We wrote this as the first post was going up. There was about a 3 hour difference. We got on today and saw the Reddit post before even seeing your comment. Don’t worry the second one is up now. We also want everyone to know that we do read your comments. The only ones that are deleted are obvious spam and offensive content.

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  • Alex
    Nov 22, 2011 @ 16:22 pm

    To be honest the Yogscast are immature but they’re funny and like to goof around and if you can’t get that you’re braindead. If this is how they like to act i’m sure they would’ve reflected their behavior from Blizzcon? Notch isn’t the god he thinks he is. It can’t take you as long as it took him to add content to Minecraft; especially when a third of the last updates were from mod makers. Overall I do not know them personally so their immaturity could’ve burst or Notch was being his usual self and made them mad or exaggerated about their behavior when they recoiled. We can only wait to see how this pathetic drama will unfold.

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    • Scholar
      Nov 22, 2011 @ 19:23 pm

      Well the real problem here is that even when everyone says their piece we won’t have full footage. Notch may have acted badly towards them and Yogscast may have insulted Notch as well. And it may have happened where no one saw it but Notch and the Yogscast members themselves. In my personal opinion something probably happened on each side. Something like this doesn’t just happen for no reason. If the fan that Notch claims Yogscast offered to sign “fuck you” to comes forward with proof, we would love to talk to you. Of course we’d have to have some way to confirm it.

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      • ...
        Nov 23, 2011 @ 6:13 am

        Just wanted to note–people are saying that the “Fuck you” was an inside joke, referring to a YogPodcast a while back (voice clip here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz-knSI0HAw ). Might not be the funniest or most mature thing, but you get what you… well, don’t pay for.

        Also, directed at the end of the article about hatemail, according to TotalBiscuit’s Twitter ( http://twitter.com/#!/totalbiscuit ), about a day ago he “heard from Simon and Lewis, they got back to Gatwick airport and were met by a crazed Notch supporter who repeatedly insulted them, IRL”. Otherwise, most people are saying the Yogscast is actually gaining subscribers. And I believe The Yogscast donated to the DesertBus charity while Notch was livestreaming with them.

        Just my own comment:
        I don’t know how much of this whole drama is entirely accurate, but damn. Fans need to calm their tits; I think they’re starting to after a couple of days, but I’m still seeing some mindless anger here and there. I’m amazed at how angry people are about them asking if they can be paid and their apparently unpalatable humor. There’s a subtle difference between demanding and asking for pay from a multimillion-dollar company you’ve helped, and there’s been no explanation about anything from their side about it yet. And humor is humor. I’m still hoping that people are right about the Notch Interview Part 2 video that the Yogs posted, and this is just trolling gone wrong.

        …Sorry for the textwall, heh.

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  • Adam
    Nov 22, 2011 @ 21:55 pm

    Yogscast sucks and Fraser from Video Games Awesome thinks so also! Screw Yogscast.

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    • Cody
      Nov 23, 2011 @ 2:06 am

      Oh, well if some other famous guy thinks so, it must be true… way to not be a media zombie…

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    • PetDave
      Nov 25, 2011 @ 21:02 pm

      Yeah, Fraser doesn’t have anything against Yogscast, he likes The Yogscast, it’s just his fans were ‘trolling’ him and Video Games Awesome during their Pre-Mincon show because he wouldn’t show 10-20 minutes of their show, because he didn’t plan on doing so. I love VGA and The Yogscast but honestly, Yogscast fans at times can be very childish, that is a perfect example right there.

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    • goog
      Dec 12, 2011 @ 15:39 pm

      dude shut up YOGSCAST ROCKS

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    • Josef Kersey
      Jan 5, 2013 @ 0:24 am

      SNARF: That’s a reference!

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    • NOT TELLING
      Apr 30, 2013 @ 19:06 pm

      agree!

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  • HateSolstice
    Nov 23, 2011 @ 10:57 am

    Notch has been a complete tool about this whole thing.

    1) He decided to go public with his complaints, instead of being a man and directly dealing with Simon & Lewis. He apparently would rather hide behind his computer screen and act like this.

    2) He apparently feels that people who do TONS of free publicity and advertisement for his product(and by free, I mean Notch doesn’t pay them a dime or contract them to do it) shouldn’t be paid for their continued services, regardless of venue. Sorry kiddies, but in the real world, that doesn’t fly.

    3) He’s something of a hypocrite, calling them an “island of egos”, or acting like children. I’d like to point to the last 1 1/2 years of Notch’s fame going to his giant Swedish head.

    4) I fully agree with TotalBiscuit’s stance on the curse words, as well as the British humor. No, I’m not British, I’m American. However, I fully understand how their cultural mannerisms and humor would be horribly misunderstood by outsiders.

    5) It was Las Vegas. Do you really expect anyone to be on their best behaviour in one of the most excessive and irreputable cities on the planet?

    I’m not going to excuse anything the Yogscast may or may not have done. I am, however, going to base my opinion of Notch on the current known facts. He’s being a douche and a total hypocrite about this entire ordeal. Unless, of course, he really is just trolling everyone. In which case, he’s still a douche.

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    • Michael R.
      Nov 26, 2011 @ 2:00 am

      Really? You are truly ungrateful. This man has worked super hard for years, throws an event to celebrate it, and you’re just being a dick to him because he didn’t want people to be assholes to some kids that just want a signature. I wouldn’t want some douches that just did a couple thousand “Let’s Play!”s to tell my fans to fuck off….. no one would. Even in Las Vegas. Besides, he’s not hosting the panels to do a favor for himself, but for the YouTube channels to gain some publicity. I do admit, Notch made a mistake: inviting Yogscast to the Minecon. He wasn’t confiding all his problems to the public, rather telling them what happened and later posted that he would talk to them and solve it in private.

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      • Dave Yognaut
        Jun 29, 2012 @ 17:19 pm

        If you were a fan of the yogscast, in which the boy was, you wouldn’t care if they said “Fuck off”. I sure wouldn’t. They curse and whatnot all the time. I’d probably laugh my head off if they did that, being a dedicated fan and loving the yogscast to death. They would never act as stuck up as Notch makes them sound, because they don’t have that much self-esteem to.

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  • Giant Anus
    Nov 26, 2011 @ 2:20 am

    I personally think that the Yogscast have handled this in an entirely professional and cool manner. They did not bash Notch for insulting them publicly. They tried to set the facts straight as soon as they got home. And they are going to continue their videos as if nothing happened. I, personally, think that Notch has gone a tad overboard with this. I mean, the “fuck off” thing hasn’t been verified by ANYONE (and when I mean anyone, I mean someone who has proof. I’m talking about the kid, or the parent of the kid. Wouldn’t they know if their child was told to “fuck off”?) and even the Yogscast denied it. I think that maybe he exaggerated a little bit to try and get people to support him, and not the Yogscast.

    But this is just my opinion. Please do not hate.

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  • Nov 26, 2011 @ 19:14 pm

    Ok, think trough this, Why in !!???!?! woud they call Mojang bunch of nerds that don`t know how to run a company.
    They called themselfs nerds and they aren`t doing that much themselves.

    !?!?!Demanded to get paid to come here!?!?!?
    If notch thought they were dicks he woudn`t give them a huge minecon stage.

    !!?!?refused to cooroparete and talked behind their backs and insulted people!??!
    serously watch the videoes.

    !?!!They claimed that they are responsible for the minecraft comunity!!??!
    They not that stupid so they ruin their own channel. And think somebody actuly say that

    !!??!Their isolated egos!??!
    WATCH THE BEFORE TALK IN THE TEAM FORTRESS VIDEOES.

    !??!painted over the name of his atougraf and wrote “FUCK YOU“
    first they are not enemies to notch and second how woud Notch see that anyway?

    And most important I don`t think notch wrote this I think a yogcast-hater hacked into his twitter. How else woud he send so un-realistic hater mails

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  • Nov 26, 2011 @ 19:20 pm

    And don`t take the sweedish accent or pronunciation thing to serously it was just a joke and I am from Sweeden so…..

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  • Pixycan
    Nov 28, 2011 @ 15:03 pm

    What happens in vagas stays in vegas so yeah this fuss is neglecting that.

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  • Eh
    Nov 28, 2011 @ 16:03 pm

    Notch is an egotist. He claims that his tumblr account is 95% minecraft development, and yet he’s constantly posting about his opinions on matters that REALLY shouldn’t be there… And on the other side… Simon and Lewis are very inconsiderate and self-absorbed…
    I choose Team Jacob.

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    • Dave Yognaut
      Jun 29, 2012 @ 17:21 pm

      I don’t give a shit about notch, but the Yogscast are NOT stuck up and self absorbed. At least, not in front of their fans. What happens backstage is something else.

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  • patrick
    Nov 28, 2011 @ 19:14 pm

    I am surprised on how mature most people are being on this subject, as a constant reader of hateful youtube comments i am utterly surprised.

    Also Notch’s comments may be misinfored or he doesnt like the yogscast because they are so popular and casting a shadow on mojang but this is just a guess. Nobody can really say what happened we dont know who is lieing if anyone even is. So i say we wait for notch and the yogscast to come to an aggrement before jumping to an conclusioins.

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  • misszeldarules
    Nov 29, 2011 @ 1:33 am

    I personally think that the Yogscast would NOT have said fuck off to some kid, sure they act immature sometimes but they would not have said fuck off to some kid. I think that Notch thinks he’s a god! He’s not and they can both have their own opinion but I will never leave the Yogscast’s side even if I am the last one I won’t leave their side!

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  • Puppy Sandwich
    Dec 4, 2011 @ 20:10 pm

    The upshot of this is; Yogscast come out of it looking like calm professionals, Notch comes out of it looking like everything he accused Yogscast of being.

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  • crowjow
    Dec 18, 2011 @ 2:19 am

    Are you guys sure this isn’t just a fake fight? You know, to get people to take sides? That could be the case, but I don’t know.

    I personally am not taking a side. Notch made the game, the Yogscast did a bunch of amazing youtube videos. So why don’t we stop bickering and fighting, and just call it even, okay?

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  • Theputainmec
    Jan 13, 2012 @ 13:44 pm

    Notch comes out of this looking jealous and childish. Yogscast have made lots of videos about minecraft and they have caused it to become more popular. However, if the yogscast hadn’t played minecraft then they probably wouldn’t be as popular. I think that Notch is just angry because he wasn’t the major star at minecon, and they kind of stole his thunder. In regard to the money, it costs a hell of a lot to fly from England to LA so it’s justifiable for them to ask for minecon to pay for accomodations. As an English person, I know how difficult communication can be between English people and Americans so it’s obviously neither Yogscast or Mojangs fault that it was hard for them to work together.

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  • Tom Spring
    Feb 7, 2012 @ 11:37 am

    I was on the side of yogscast, notch didn’t seem to respect their swearing and offending in not only their humour, but british humour. I don’t really see how their ‘an isolated island of egos’ because well, they’re not. It seems like notch was being the total dick, the spoilt diva and the ego. he had just release his full game, its really popular so he started to think he was better then them, and when yogscast released their statement, that made notch look like an absolute dick. They handled it calmly, and did not insult notch once.

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  • Dan Hirst
    Apr 21, 2012 @ 23:02 pm

    Apologies for the belated comment, however this whole situation is completely new to me as of tonight!

    After the first time of reading this I found myself believing this to be “digs” between Notch and Yogscast. It really didn’t seem plausible that someone of a certain calibre (such as Notch with all of his successes) would deem it acceptable to express negative feelings towards the group of people; who I believe have been pivotal to a portion of Minecraft’s success.

    HOWEVER, being English (or British) myself and having been scrutinised by people of other nationalities based on our apparently “crude” humour compared to that of other countries. It does again seem probable that this whole incident is based on the lack of understanding between cultures.

    I’d be interested in knowing if this was ever resolved? Was there more news on this? (sorry again for being so far behind…)

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    • Pink Prinny
      Apr 21, 2012 @ 23:28 pm

      Notch apologized and everyone had official statements on the incident. They all said they wouldn’t talk about it again and it was over. Nothing else about it ever came up or we would have been sure to update the post. If anything else comes up we will be sure to let everyone know.

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  • Tiffany Yognaut
    Aug 8, 2012 @ 16:16 pm

    To be honest, I’m a Yognaut and I really don’t want to take sides. Let me analyse this:
    Notch:
    -Makes awkward jokes (Proof notch and yogscast interview)
    -Is maker of awesome game
    -Is kind of shy and awkward irl (has anyone noticed he is pretty awkward in public?)
    -Accusations cannot be proven
    Yogscast:
    -Awesome in public for a pair of thirty year olds who record mc and WoW in their bedrooms
    -Insane and cursing all the time, but many fans don’t mind. I’m a kid myself and I don’t really mind the swearing!
    -It could be true Yogscast sworn in front of a child but they probably wouldn’t tell a kid to fuck off no matter how tired they are. (Indirect swearing, citation needed :P)
    -Real yognaught/nauts would not have minded the swearing.
    -They had a reasonable, mature response instead of shouting insults back to Mojang.
    As I said I didn’t want to take sides anyway, so I think this misunderstanding is just originated from a Yog hater who told Notch some nasty things, or it was simply another awkward Notch style joke.

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  • Darkspectre
    Aug 10, 2012 @ 1:31 am

    Not to sound like the average conspirator, but this whole thing could have been planned out to boost popularity for both sides.
    I personally don’t side with any of them, but “Real-Yognaughts” shouldn’t need to put up with swearing. It is rude, vile, and immature. It might not have happened in the first place. Notch has a right to be a god of his own world, he created it. It is when that ego seeps into the real world that things become messy.
    I enjoy minecraft, but I grow tired when two children cannot share and respect the one thing that makes them alike.

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  • thunderball11111
    Aug 13, 2012 @ 9:36 am

    I personally think that this is a really old argument over the yogcasts behavior were one side has behaved maturely and the other has generally tried to insult and make the other look bad. Notch who is the man behind the game and the yogscast who in my opinion make really fun and entertaining videos about a brilliant game, should both apologies wether in the wrong or not. And as the yogscast have already done move on and keep doing what they do best making a epic game and playing it.

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  • Sir Awesomealot
    Aug 29, 2012 @ 21:49 pm

    I came into this not wanting to take sides but being a Yognaught for awhile…i am finding it hard not to. They handled this very maturely and did not retaliate. In there response video THEY covered Notch’s A$$ and said that he was tired. They made excuses for his behavior and that is all i have to say on this subject.

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  • MojangisLame
    Jan 31, 2013 @ 2:03 am

    Notch sucks, he’s lazy and has received a sickening amount of praise and attention for MC. Lets not forget when he pissed you all off stating “the game is finished” only to shovel it over to Jeb because he noticed everyone was clamoring about it. Even now they state they don’t want a large team to keep it a certain way. Its pathetic to think that MC will go anywhere but down. This is serious, the four that sat up taking questions at hey we said it in the video were adding QWARTS 8P to the nepher”. Its stupid because they have become closed off just like the corporations they apparently oppose. Now with the advent of 0x10c Eldrone gets 250+ up votes for 1 flipping image while an intriguing and incredibly detailed fan based write-up received minor over looks simply because it didn’t come from the fuking hands of a mojang employee, lame. That’s what they used to be all about. Oh also don’t forget all that goodness that Notch apparently is. Yea he basically played off of Infiminer, shit he stole it in my mind and to top it off he disbanded it right as it was starting to blossom. Its buggy there’s still no API, bugs pop out when bugs are fixed and so on. Yea and I think 0x10c will be finished by the fan base before Notch even knows what hit him. Comments like “I felt rushed” and “I think I over hyped it” are no brainers. They have an awesome community but their not going to add anything the community suggests because then Notch wouldn’t feel so special. He must have a problem with that. Please don’t defend him, it ain’t gonna do you no good. He’s rich now bitches HAHAHA! Notch Sheeples…

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